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Very very cramped engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had currently figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek post, that I didn't explain ... my poor In reply to spitfirebill: I included that factor because when I needed to find a substitute 4.9 for my F150, I needed to go via each in every junkyard in South Jacket to find one that had not been sludged up truly badly.
Bernie: Which is a far better van, while we're mosting likely to speak about a couple of problems of these vans, yet I I'm plainly not going to appear and claim one is far better than the other. So if that's what you're trying to find, you'll have to wait. Mark: So what are a few of the distinctions between these two brand names? Bernie: Well, they're basically the very same automobile.
They appear to be a little extra made use of because area, however, you recognize, those are several of the usages, yet they're basically the same classification of car. Mark: So, well, let's begin with engines then. What issues do you see in between these 2 automobiles? Bernie: Yeah. So allow's discuss engine and really just to specify that the model years, we're mosting likely to begin from 2000 and up, you recognize, I indicate, these vans have actually been around for a long period of time.
And, you understand, for a version of a Chevy van has actually been around because, you recognize, around that time also. Because 2000, I imply, Ford's, you can get these with V6 engines or V8s.
So, you recognize, Fords, and the majority of them include the Triton V8. There's a great deal of issues with these engines. In the earlier 2000 ignition system with strike to these engines, since they didn't have adequate threading in the ignition system, which created issues. And commonly that would certainly take place when you could be in a 15 passenger bus rising a hillside with a tons of people and all of an unexpected boom, an ignition system pops out and you're stranded.
So if you're buying anything from probably 08 and newer, you're not mosting likely to have that type of ignition system concerns. Other areas though, with the Fords that we see, intake manifolds will certainly leak, they'll establish coolant leaks. It's a plastic manifold usually you need to change the whole point.
And there's some problems, the Ford engine I need to state in their favour, because I'm chatting regarding troubles, it's an extra sophisticated engine. Overhead camera, so you're getting even more power and efficiency out of the engine than you would certainly on a Chevy, which is a simpler layout with press rods.
They're just really respectable, durable, solid engines. You know, being a van, naturally, you understand, doing any kind of solution on them is extra difficult because you have actually got to eliminate that cover and enter into servicing in strange methods. But points like spark plugs last a terrible long period of time, so they do not need to be replaced extremely usually.
Mark: Can you purchase these vans with diesel engines? Bernie: You can and we do service a few of them. I can not believe of if we've ever done a Chevy, however Chevy, they're offered from 2006 to 16 with a Duramax diesel. The Fords have actually had diesels in them for a very long time, like back before the 2000 model year.
So, you recognize, that's still offered. I would certainly not advise a diesel unless you're transporting remarkably hefty tons. Diesels need to be functioned. That's truly the bottom line with a diesel. If you're a say, I don't recognize, I'm just going to say a plumber and you have actually got like a great deal of heavyweight inside your van and you're lugging a trailer behind it, that would be a truly great usage of having a diesel powered van.
In all justness, it looks like the diesels are, they appear to have less issues in vans than they perform in the trucks. Possibly since they aren't functioned so hard, but when points happen, they're really costly to take care of. We have actually got a lot of videos and details concerning diesels, especially the Fords.
So you truly require to hesitate about obtaining a diesel in a van. That's my referral. Mark: Yeah, so in shape for purpose, make certain that you're fitting the engine that you're buying for the function that you're endeavouring to accomplish. Bernie: Yeah, exactly. And I will certainly claim, Chevy is practically limited to V8 engines, yet Ford has a V 10 engine as well, which is a monstrous gas consuming engine.
Yet if you're, and once again, we're simply discussing kind of a straight, normal freight van here. The diesel absolutely isn't the very best option. Consider your function, your usage, exactly how much weight you're hauling which'll help you make the choice. Mark: What regarding the transmission and the rest of the drive train? Bernie: They're virtually equal.
Something that we haven't spoken about here is what sort of van. These vans are, and it depends upon what version, they're offered ever before from half lot to one heap chassis and in fact several of the exploded view vans are actually even more resilient, like, you understand, 450s and 550s for say the Fords.
Bernie: You understand, I'm going to provide the edge to Ford on this one. And the factor for Ford is that it's a little less complex.
There's much less guiding link associated with a Chevy. There are less parts to use out. They do a sphere joints that put on out. So do Chevy's, but it seems, and the Chevy's most likely last a little bit longer than the Fords, yet the, you know, the steering link is a lot less difficult, so there's much less parts and much less things to break.
The adventure in a Ford is most likely a little extra vehicle like yet I do not know if you 'd actually ever really observed a difference in between the 2. It seems like their parts are a little tougher on the Ford than the Chevy.
Somehow, they seem to last for one brake work. And afterwards a whole lot of times we take the brakes off and claim, Oh, the dust boots torn, therefore the caliper requires to be replaced. So I assume on a Ford and you can anticipate to spend a bit more money on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm going to swerve back prior to the 2000 design years, there were some Chevy vans that had really bad doors. I suggest, the gliding doors were crap, you know, truly badly constructed. In fact, I would certainly claim that if you are also checking out something older, it appears like Chevy and GMC vans truly and their vehicles as a whole actually took a leap onward in quality around the 2000 design year, due to the fact that there was a great deal of things where the brakes for instance would certainly not last really long in all.
If we're looking at the 2000 newer, I mean, I 'd state they're both possibly pretty much matching in top quality, fit and coating, you recognize, some of the passenger vans, of program we'll have better appointments than the freight vans. However I can't say that of them attracts attention to me a little greater than the other.
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